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All In Podcast Episode 209 Recap and Notes January 3 2025

 January 3 2025

  • Gavin Baker joins
  • Predictions Show
  • Super predictions go on PolyMarket
    • All In section on PolyMarket - ex US only
  • Skiing fun
  • Biggest Winner Politics
Chamath Jason Friedberg Gavin
Biggest Winner Politics Fiscal conservatives Gen X (Elon, Rubio, etc) and Elder millenials (Vance, Vivek, Tulsi) Young candidates (avg Trump candidates’ age is 45 or so - Biden had like 60+ - so by end of 2025 younger political names will rise) Trump and centrism
Biggest Political Loser Progressivism (Pierre > Trudeau, LePen > Macron, Farage > Starmer, AfD wins, etc - repudiation of class based identity politics) - Said Koch family last year and claims he got it right Racist vocal minority on both sides Pro war neocons (said Ukraine last year) Putin (European will re-arm itself so US will redeploy to Japan and South Korea so Xi Jinping will decouple from Putin)
Biggest Business Winner Dollar denominated stable coins (https://a16zcrypto.com/posts/article/state-of-crypto-report-2024/) - Visa and Mastercard will be hit (last year said bootstrapped startups - did well) Elon’s AI play (Tesla/xAI) and Google (Gemini Deep Research) (last year said training data set providers like Reddit, NYT, etc - did well) Autonomous hardware/robotics (just ordered some UniTree for use on farms - < $3000 cost, Humanoid is G1 - ~$16K) - Year of the robot (last year said commodities business - didn’t work) Big businesses that use AI thoughtfully - they can pay for AI to solve problems at high cost that smaller businesses won’t be able to - inference compute will be derivative winner of that
Biggest Business Loser Absolute dollar drawdown of Mag 7 will be a lot - worried about concentration of top companies - about 40% - this has historically foreshadowed a drawdown https://x.com/chamath/status/1873144394100187263 - (Last year said Sports teams - Gavin is taking the opposite side of that) OpenAI (too many external headwinds), Other Candidates - Commercial real estate, Microstrategy, Truth Social Similar to Gavin - companies dependent too much on gov - so gov contractors - so as a corollary traditional consulting companies will also be hit (Wipro, Tata, Cognizant, etc) Age of cost plus is over - its terrible (Last year said Vertical SaaS (got it right) Government service providers (age of DOGE - might not want gov being ~35% of your market)
Biggest Business Deal Collapse of auto OEMs - thinks Honda/Nissan combination is foreshadowing what might happen in the rest of the industry - Tesla will beat everyone else - Gavin agrees saying they are losing their Chinese business - only counter is gov intervention (Last year said Starlink public - failed) Some self driving partnership (Amazon, Tesla, Waymo, Uber, Doordash, etc) Last year said ByteDance would go public or Tiktok divestment will happen (almost there) Massive funding deals for hardware manufacturing in the US, Also thinks Waymo will do a deal (Last year blockbuster AI rights deals - got it right with Reddit) Lots of tech M&A (pent up demand), something will happen with Intel, independent frontier AI labs will get acquired
Most contrarian belief Banking crisis in 1 of the mainline banks (Last year said OpenAI value will go down - got it wrong) Last year said Apple will enter AI - they did with Intelligence but its so bad Dramatic rise in socialist movements in 2025 in US - we will see a lot of overall growth but some parts of the economy will lose big - so large contingents of people will be left behind - Gavin agrees with saying that AI will disrupt a lot of income in 2025 (Last year said nuclear weapon use probability will go up (hard to say he got it right)) Frontier models won’t release their research as much - America will print at least 1 year of > 5% GDP growth in the next 4 years
Best Performing Asset Credit Default Swaps (some insurance) Mag 7 Chinese tech ETFs (Last year said Uranium ETF - got it wrong) High Bandwidth Memory companies (bigger part of NVidia GPU cogs - 2 companies today - Hynix and Micron)
Worst Performing Asset Software Industrial Complex (not sure their thesis is valid anymore) - talking his book with 8090 - Last year late stage tech stocks Legacy auto OEMs and real estate - Last year said LLM startups Vertical SaaS - pricing being compressed as companies explore internal tools - Last year - short vertical SaaS, long cloud providers - good spread trade Enterprise application software (if you don’t have your own models or own your compute, all you have is a little bit of a data moat)
Most anticipated trend End of the deep state - small arcane regulatory changes that allow us to kick the debt can down the road (Last year said BTC will hit $100K - nailed it) Exits and DPI will shower down, M&A etc will go up (Last year said AI entering industries - claims win with Athena) Announcement of nuclear power build out in 2025 - new gov will be more accommodating (Last year said predictive AI models - Demis won Nobel Prize nailed it) AI will make more progress per quarter in 2025 than per year in 2023/2024 - reasoning trace - might get ASI (artificial super intelligence)
Most anticipated media Declassified files from Trump administration (LY - Mr Beast - got it right) Chaos in editorial newsrooms in leftwing media (LY - 3BP, Gladiator 2) AI video games (LY - AI generated news) 1923 season 2
Super Prediction Mag 8 concentration drops to 30% in SP500 Trump will deport 750,000; National debt (grown $2T/year in each of last 8 years on avg) - betting $1T increase - so $38T in Dec 2025 MSFT, AWS, GCP who will win in revenue growth in 2025 UFOs and Drones information coming out (last time there was a rise in reports it was in 1945-1960s when we learnt nuclear power and now its coming again when we have AI breakthrough)

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