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All In Podcast Episode 115 Notes February 11 2023

February 11 2023



  • Chamath - gave his son grief about answering the phone
  • JCal - Sacks balloon disagreement
    • Media is reflexively hawkish
  • Nordstream
    • Balloon got more attention
    • Made for TV (news) moment
    • Why is the Nordstream story not being covered?
    • Its not made for TV
    • Or has news media already picked a side?
    • When it happened, US state said Russia did it - and media raced so quickly to the conclusion
    • But it was Russia’s main leverage over Europe
    • Seymoure Hersh story is very detailed
      • Legendary pulitzer prize winning journalist - 85+ years old
      • Broke Vietnam war story - that military denied until he was proven right
      • Broke Abu Ghraib prison abuses - military denied it again
      • Now here he is with another report of covert military action
    • Does Europe know?
    • Military/authorities/CIA spokesman have said this is a fiction?
    • Ukraine don’t have this capability
    • But probably Norway and US and UK have the capability
    • Before war, Biden said if Russia invades, Nordstream will be no more
    • Victoria Nuland said same thing
    • Blinken said also benefits of getting rid of it
    • At a hearing Nuland also affirmed how beneficial it is
    • Now US has Eu natural gas
    • Who had motive, means and opportunity?
    • If US did it, its an incredibly provocative act - against a country armed with nuclear weapons
    • So potentially scary situation
    • CIA knew how to do it, Biden wanted it, Republicans wanted it
      • Maybe someone was enabled how to do it
    • But those theories don’t have the same level of detail or reporting that Hersh’s story did
    • Seymour Hersh story has a lot of incredible detail - 1 main source - provided a ton of detail
    • Media ran with govt narrative and when Jeffrey Sachs from the left and Tucker Carlson from the right questioned this, they were called Putin stooges
    • Radek Sikorski - Polish diplomat - when it blew up, he tweeted a photo - Thank you USA
    • Who was conducting naval exercises in the region for 3 months
    • Biden’s statement is true no matter who did it
    • This affects Germany so maybe they should have got a heads up - if this was planned?
    • Media seems to be coordinating their responses
    • Germany might pay a very high price forever - Schultz might be in trouble because of his US support - they have an industrialized economy - which needs a lot of energy - so what is their interest in this?
    • Everyone is looking for external conflict - there are a lot of interested parties in war and conflict - if you’re not happy at home, you look externally for conflict
      • Foreign policy establishment is funded by these interests
      • Relatively harmless thing like a balloon also gets people amped up reflexively
    • Eisenhower warned against this in his farewell address
      • He knew of which he spoke
  • Friedberg did a podcast with Brian Keating - cosmologist
  • Chamath did a photoshoot a long time ago - new establishment summit
  • Search Wars - Microsoft vs Google
    • Both companies did live demos
    • Satya is calling on Google to demo
    • Rumors that they fired the failed demo people
    • Google has been using DeepMind quite well - like for Youtube, Ads, etc
    • Larry and Sergey read Information Retrieval textbook
    • Google makes ~$3/click
      • 5c-10c revenue per search done on Google
      • ~50% margin
        • 50% COGs (cost of goods)
      • So google search costs them 2.5c per search
    • ChatGPT each result takes ~30c of compute - so order of magnitude higher cost
    • Lot of work to go before it becomes truly economically competitive with Google
    • So maybe $80B per quarter to do this for ChatGPT to serve Google level of search
    • If you were sitting on something as foundational as Google Search in 1999 would you have sold 49% of it for $10B? HARD NO
    • Microsoft bought ~50% of a tool for ~$10B - Google will be forced to decay their business model to compete
      • This will flow into P&L
      • So business quality will degrade
      • Thats why bad Bard demo snafu caused $100B market cap hit
    • Google is the best business model in history
    • They have to find ways to spend money - else 50-60% EBITDA margins
    • So they try to do a lot more things to try to make the core treasure not look as incredible as it is
    • Incredible juggernaut
    • They have $100B FCF this year
    • Business will get worse if Microsoft, Meta, Quora, Tencent come out with competitors
    • So Google will be hit
    • What is the countermeasure from Sundar?
    • He should go to Board and say we will double TAC
    • Apple could be paid $25B this year for google search default
    • How will AI companies pay publishers?
    • Google is best monetizing because it gives best search and you get links to things directly
    • Hard to get advertising right when people just want the answer?
    • Am I getting the best answer or am I getting the answer you were willing to pay for?
    • 3/4th of Google’s TAC goes to publishers through AdSense
    • Better for you to spend money to degrade your business than have a competitor do it for you
    • Google pays 70c per dollar to publishers - bid on everything and always win because they pay the most for every dollar
    • Neeva.com shoutout
    • Will these AI products be hit by fair use rights issues?
    • Take any business that is a middle man business - compete away the margins which is all the input costs that are human capital and put that in customer acquisition
      • Andrej Karpathy and a few engineers can just copy Stripe
    • Result is economic productivity
    • So technology is more important than debt for improving the world
    • Galileo.ai shoutout - design pages using AI
    • This + Github Copilot means you don’t need specialized developers for your startup
    • Actual result will be programmers become more productive
    • Video Game industry will be disrupted - just publisher not producing games, but now tools to produce your own game
    • NYT throws shade at Goldman CEO’s side gig as DJ - NYT is just offended that people are happy
    • Friedberg and Chamath both played violin for many years
    • Technology is fundamentally deflationary
    • Google should cannibalize their own business before it is cannibalized for them
    • 95% of content websites will just go away (how to do this, how to do that, etc)
    • Best thing for Google to get FTC off their back is if Microsoft steals some market share
  • State of the Union
    • Biden articulation wasn’t very good

    • Shared on social media by Lyn Alden - debt held by the Public is runaway - this is crazy



    • So have to cutback on payments in the future OR you tax a lot more and economic growth gets hit 😟

    • In France riots because they pushed back retirement age by 2 years

    • Real cost that is coming to bear for the US

    • If they can’t grow the economy fast enough they HAVE to raise taxes

    • Government is a far worse investor in economic growth than free markets

    • Read Ray Dalio’s book on economic cycle

    • Biden is doing same as Clinton in 1994 when he lost midterms - become champion of smallball

    • They are getting ready for DeSantis on this

      • Way back when he voted for entitlement reform
    • There is no appetite for entitlement reform - unless its bipartisan

    • Republicans don’t seem to have any impulse control

    • American people won’t stomach entitlement reform when government has spent trillions on military wars, special interests

    • China is deploying solar on every rooftop in China

    • US also needs to do it

    • We are not lacking generation capability - its scalable storage

    • France had exodus of 42000 millionaires between 2000 and 2012 - same will happen in CA - already happening without wealth tax

    • 5-10 year look forward

    • PJ Rourke: x - y = big stink

      • x = what people want govt to pay
      • y = what people will pay to govt
    • SF $13B budget - $18K per citizen per year

      • 35% goes to public health care
      • This is more than every single state of the union except Oregon and South Dakota
      • Spends more than 15 states put together
      • Spends more than Federal govt ($15K)
    • Miami FL has no income tax - income tax and capital gains tax of 0 in florida and they make it work

    • If they don’t bring the budget in line then they can’t just tax people forever

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