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All In Podcast Episode 160 Recap and Notes January 5 2024

January 5 2024



  • Friedberg bought radiation suits for his family and dogs
  • Predictions!
  • Biggest Political Winner
    • Sacks
      • Vladimir Putin - turned it around in 2023, stabilized his economy, gained upper hand militarily in Ukraine, will consolidate gains in Ukraine, US media’s stalemate narrative will be exposed as a lie, Russia will win the war - he will become more influential throughout the global south - he will be seen as a conquering hero
        • Argentina said they will not join BRICS (Javier Milei is very pro american, pro Israel) - might be a one-off or a trend, TBD
        • West made Putin a victor by plunging into a war without knowing what we were doing
        • The global south will use Russia as a proxy to reject American authority (see Fiona Hill article)
      • Last year said Asian American candidates will win Affirmative Action ruling - got it right
      • Big mistake by Biden to antagonize Saudis but see how Putin was welcomed royally
    • Friedberg
      • Independent political party
        • 1992 Ross Perot got 19-20% of the vote
        • This year to be seen how RFK Jr will do
      • Last year said Saudi - got it right
    • Chamath
      • Independent centrists - this election will start the breakdown of the 2 party system
      • Last year - spread trade long Nikki Haley, short DeSantis - won
    • Jason
      • Dark horse presidential candidate
      • Last year said Trump would get indicted, etc - kinda got it right
  • Biggest Political Loser
    • Chamath
      • This year - Kochs and whoever they back
      • Last year - Desantis - got it right
    • Jason
      • Netanyahu
      • Last year - Desantis - got it right
    • Sacks
      • Collective West
        • made huge bet to pressure and challenge Putin - crapped out
        • Now Israel invasion of Gaza doesn’t seem to be going well - Admiral Kirby basically admitted as much
        • Europe is suffering economically - shakeups will happen
      • Ukraine is suffering - 10M people have left the country, 20M people left and half are pensioners, 0.5M died 😟
      • Last year - California - went from $76B surplus in 2022 to $68B in 2023 - got it right
    • Friedberg
      • Ukraine issue and US won’t have resources to commit to Ukraine and it won’t be able to join NATO
      • Last year - IMF would step in for countries - didn’t pan out much
  • Biggest Business Winner
    • Jason
      • Folks who have training data
        • New business model can come about - federate your account with NYT, etc to do ChatGPT on top of it
      • Last year - laid off tech workers and startups
    • Friedberg
      • Commodities businesses - big boom will come back in 2024 - people sold down inventory and it will be built back - cash will come back, stockpiles will go up
      • Last year - Open AI - got it right - highest market cap gain
    • Sacks
      • Anduril for its Roadrunner product announced last year - drone disruptor, for drone defense
        • Jason wants to join Anduril board after buying upto 2% of its shares
      • Last year - America’s natural gas - got it right - hit new records
    • Chamath
      • Bootstrapped startup or profitable startup - best will be bootstrapped/profitable startup - we are underestimating how cheap it will be to copy an existing business in 2024 - copilots, cost of compute, cost of energy all going down 10x - so can create companies for very cheap in a matter of months
      • Last year - Relativity Space
  • Biggest Business Loser
    • Chamath
      • Peak valuations of professional sports
        • Examples from last year
          • LIV tour vs PGA
          • Saudi Arabia just bought a bunch of players
          • NIL in NCAA - college players are making millions to be in college
          • Meaningful uptick in churn from streamers
      • Last year - google search
    • Sacks
      • German economy
        • Loss of cheap russian gas has hit their industrial
          • (Someone blew up the nordstream pipeline)
        • Car industry has been massively impacted by a sudden glut of cheap cars from China
      • Last year - consumer
    • Friedberg
      • Vertical SaaS - copilots will make things so much more customizable - companies can build their own stuff at low cost
      • Last year - Later stage startups, B, C, D series
    • Jason
      • Smartphones - even Apple is finding it hard to keep people buying it
      • Last year - white collar workers without hard skills
  • Biggest Business Deal of 2024
    • Jason
      • Tiktok goes public
      • Last year - Amazon getting into healthcare
    • Chamath
      • Starlink will go public (same as last year)
      • Last year - Starlink goes public
    • Sacks
      • Whatever the Fed decides to do to replace/extend BTFP (bank term funding program)
      • Last year - deal between Putin and Xi - got it right
    • Friedberg
      • Petro Yuan trade
      • Rights holders getting Gen AI deals - new version of zazzle kinda thing
      • Last year - Petro Yuan trade
  • Most contrarian belief
    • Jason
      • Apple doing GenAI
      • Last year - american exceptionalism
    • Chamath
      • Enterprise value of OpenAI goes down (a secular industry wide trend)
        • This AI-AWS thing is too slow
      • Last year - inflation wont fall that much - got it wrong
    • Sacks
      • Soft landing gets very bumpy
      • Last year - end of bromance between Biden and Zelenskyy - got it right
        • Politico had article about how administration wants to distance itself from the conflict
    • Friedberg
      • Increased probability that a nuclear weapon will be used in conflict
        • Turkey might not be the best ally to the West anymore - might see first fracturing of NATO
      • Last year - beginning of the end of USD as reserve currency
  • Best Performing Asset
    • Chamath
      • Spread trade - public software index (short will private late stage mostly saas companies)
      • Last year - cash and front end of yield curve - did well
    • Jason
      • Consumer comfort services - doordash, airbnb, uber (talking his book)
      • Last year - seed stage investing
    • Sacks
      • Energy stocks - so much risk of conflict breaking out - people aren’t looking at what’s happening between Venezuela and Guyana - former is trying to steal latter’s offshore oil assets - Ethiopia and Eritrea or Egypt conflicts potentially - or US conflict with Iran - etc - oil prices could go up
      • Last year - t bills
    • Friedberg
      • Uranium ETF
      • Last year - semiconductor and capital equipment - up 60% so did well
  • Worst Performing Asset
    • Jason
      • LLM startups
      • Last year - energy - right
    • Chamath
      • Probably late stage private mostly saas companies
      • Last year - tech, energy, junk debt - right
    • Sacks
      • Bet against Magnificent 7 - S&P 493 will catch up a little - whatever goes up will come down - they went up based on AI promise - so why won’t others also go up?
      • Last year - office hours in SF - right
    • Friedberg
      • Vertical SaaS (and long low cost, low code companies) - AI and low code tools are very deflationary - SaaS business model was a temporary phenomenon - engineer arbitrage - software companies have a long way to go down - they have been high margin -
      • Last year - consumer credit - right
  • Most anticipated trend
    • Jason
      • Efficiency due to AI advances and outsourcing
      • Last year - austerity
    • Chamath
      • Most important year for Bitcoin that has ever existed
        • Days away from a series of ETFs - Bitcoin will now cross the chasm and see mainstream adoption - parents and grandparents will buy it
      • Last year - austerity
    • Friedberg
      • Software engineered bio products because of AI
      • Last year - cell gene therapy becoming more mainstream - steady pace - sickle cell product came out
    • Sacks
      • AI breakthroughs becoming more mainstream
      • Last year - Trump’s influence on GOP waning - got it wrong (predicted it coz of how red wave became red puddle and candidates he supported failed) - all the lawsuits have galvanized the base to support him
  • Most anticipated Media
    • Jason
      • Yung Spielburg new album, Gladiator 2, Netflix’s 3 body problem
      • Last year - Oppenheimer
    • Chamath
      • Mr Beast added a 100M subscribers on YouTube in 2023 - so looking forward to his videos
      • Last year - Dune 2 (delayed)
    • Friedberg
      • AI generated news
      • Last year - Generative AI based media
    • Sacks
      • The Founders - by Jimmy Soni - Sacks and friend working with Drake’s company to make this a TV show or something
        • (also Gladiator 2, House of the Dragon Season 2)
      • Last year - Oppenheimer
  • Emotional condition heading into 2024
    • Sacks - feels level but world will be turbulent
    • Jason - exhilarated, enthusiastic, creative
    • Chamath - cautious and pensive
    • Friedberg - excited about work, nervous about world
      • Republicans might force some budget cuts

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