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All In Podcast Episode 228 Recap and Notes May 16 2025

May 16 2025

  • Ben Shapiro joins the show
  • Phil Hellmuth apology
  • AllIn poker tournament in Vegas
  • Trump Middle east trip
    • $600B investment commitment from Saudi Arabia
    • Defense partnership
    • Business delegation
    • $200B from Qatar
    • Removed sanctions against Syria
    • Speech against american intervention and forever wars
      • credited new generation of middle east leadership
    • Investment and business deals have strategic benefits
    • US should also have strings attached to deals being made - both sides should have leverage
    • Groq deals in Saudi Arabia
    • $400M plane gift from Qatar (has been given to other countries before too)
      • Deal was it would go to Presidential library of Trump
      • So fair to raise eyebrows
      • Pam Bondi was also a foreign registered agent of Qatar for lobbying
      • Unnecessary distraction - appearance of impropriety can scuttle important agenda points for economy
    • China through Belten Road 1.0 eroded American hegemony worldwide
      • $200B investment in Saudi and Qatar over the last few decades
    • US making relationships with Saudi Arabia is important
    • Saudi has 4B people within 1000 mile radius
    • $2T investment from these countries into US is a change in the region
    • Trump speech is a sea change in attitude towards Middle East
    • American traditional view has been that our way is the right way and other ways are wrong
    • So his speech is a sign of respect towards these countries
    • US no longer has the moral high ground
    • Less judgement and more engagement
    • Trump is not isolationist - making trillion dollar deals with these countries
    • Iran caved within a short time after this full court press
    • Fair to be skeptical of these deals or the outcomes we can get
    • UAE and Saudi might be best places in the world for putting in net new capital
  • China trade deal
    • US 145 → 30
    • China 125 → 10
    • Market loved the news
    • Polymarket prediction of US recession has dropped to 37% now (from ~60% over a month ago)
    • Persistent tariffs will have an effect - remains to be seen how good/bad it is
  • GOP and Big beautiful Bill
    • Friedberg hates the house bill

    • Annual deficit could be adding $2.5T

    • $2T a year in interest on our debt

    • DOGE can’t save much - only ~$300B per year

    • Congress needs to act

    • We should not add new programs

    • SNAP program has exploded in size - $60B from 2019 to $120B now - they are cutting $30B from it now

    • No taxes on tips can create loopholes

    • Sad that we didn’t return to pre-pandemic spending

    • All new spending should be line item-ed out - not sure that will happen

    • A deficit to GDP of 8% per year is insane - its like Argentina situation

    • We are in the debt death spiral

    • Who pays all the taxes

    • But can’t panic - when you owe the bank a million, its your problem, when you owe the bank a billion, its their problem

    • Could monetize American balance sheet (is it ~$100T?)

    • Scott Bessent 333 plan - 3% inflation, 3% GDP growth, 3% deficit to GDP ratio (also Ray Dalio 333 plan) - would be great if it works out

    • Either cut spending or agree you want the country to go bankrupt

  • Montana bans cell-based meat
    • Joins Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, etc
  • Drug price lowering EO from Trump
    • PBMs
    • China might be overtaking the US in clinical trial reform

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